Talking about security that “assumes DNS holds”

In discussions of economics, a predictive statement is often accompanied by the qualifier ceteris paribus, or, roughly, “other things being equal”, in order to compare apples fairly to apples. In discussions of Internet security, more and more I hear, and have occasion to use, a qualifier like “assuming DNS holds”. For a while, I used a stock formulation that went like “assuming DNSSEC or no cache poisoning”.

An awful lot rides on getting to the domain you think you’re getting to; it’s a basic ingredient in many web protocols. It lets you do things like treat unsigned metadata from a known-good domain as sufficient for lightweight use cases. And being clear about this assumption lets you compare solutions on their other merits.

UMAnitarian Joseph Holsten and I tried to cook up a pseudo-Latin equivalent for the economics phrase: ceteris nomina indubia, hoping to translate it roughly to “assuming non-doubtful names”.

But now I realize the first word isn’t right (ceteris is the “other things” part, like in et cetera), and we need something in the vindicatum or sumo category. Or we could just leave that part out, since “ceteris paribus” doesn’t have the “assume” part either. Any Latin scholars want to opine?


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3 Comments to “Talking about security that “assumes DNS holds””

  1. Dave Kearns 31 December 2010 at 10:16 am #

    apparitio nominis justum asciscere (ANJA)

    Which *I think* means assuming (or aspiring to) a correct naming system…..

    Happy New Year!

  2. eduardo 3 January 2011 at 2:33 pm #

    If my memory serves me well (and believe me, it’s been quite a while) “ceteris paribum” is an ablative absolute construction that indicates a certain state or condition; the best English equivalent I can come up would be “Windows wide open, I enjoyed the sounds of Nature”. Thus you need another ablative absolute for what you want to say, something like “certis nominibus” (I think!)

  3. Eve 5 January 2011 at 12:38 pm #

    Thanks, guys! Nominations from the Twitterverse ran like this:

    @paulmadsen offered “caveat querier”, snarkily (I think).

    @mubay suggested “Dato fide nominum”, “given faith in names”.

    @sixdeaftaxis noted that the dative plural in the above seems wrong.

    Whew. This great resource suggests that the ablative absolute construction is the right way to go. We’d be looking for a noun of “names” and an adjective of “faithful” or “good” or “non-dubious”. No idea what cases/endings/declensions/whatnot to use…