Comments on: The Venn of identity http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/ XML, identity, crafting, and other tangled musings Sun, 06 Jul 2008 01:38:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: danbri’s foaf stories » Foundation Nation: new orgs for Infocards, Symbian http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-164964 danbri’s foaf stories » Foundation Nation: new orgs for Infocards, Symbian Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:06:34 +0000 http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-164964 [...] this could be looked at as completing the “third leg of the stool” of what is often called the Venn of Identity (SAML, OpenID, and Information Cards). But from another perspective, you can see it as one of the [...] […] this could be looked at as completing the “third leg of the stool” of what is often called the Venn of Identity (SAML, OpenID, and Information Cards). But from another perspective, you can see it as one of the […]

]]> By: » A Unifying Visual Metaphor http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-164920 » A Unifying Visual Metaphor Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:52:33 +0000 http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-164920 [...] this could be looked at as completing the “third leg of the stool” of what is often called the Venn of Identity (SAML, OpenID, and Information Cards). But from another perspective, you can see it as one of the [...] […] this could be looked at as completing the “third leg of the stool” of what is often called the Venn of Identity (SAML, OpenID, and Information Cards). But from another perspective, you can see it as one of the […]

]]> By: Pushing String » The Venn in article form http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-153508 Pushing String » The Venn in article form Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:02:51 +0000 http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-153508 [...] Ellison, Johannes Ernst, and Paul Madsen. More details on this history can be found in my initial post on the subject. Thanks, [...] […] Ellison, Johannes Ernst, and Paul Madsen. More details on this history can be found in my initial post on the subject. Thanks, […]

]]> By: Cook’s Collaborative Edge » Blog Archive » Thinking on Identity - a Mini Tutorial http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-53873 Cook’s Collaborative Edge » Blog Archive » Thinking on Identity - a Mini Tutorial Wed, 04 Apr 2007 15:41:04 +0000 http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-53873 [...] the technology end, here is one way I put it. with a recent new iteration by Eve Maler of [...] […] the technology end, here is one way I put it. with a recent new iteration by Eve Maler of […]

]]> By: Eric Norman http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-52065 Eric Norman Sat, 31 Mar 2007 00:22:54 +0000 http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-52065 I'm not happy with the implication that CardSpace doesn't do SSO. Under normal circumstances, all CadSpace requires of the user is one "click to approve" to sign on to a site. Granted, that's not quite what a lot of folks think that SSO means, but I would rather interpret SSO as meaning Simple (enough) Sign On. Furthermore, I'm not sure that signing on to a site in a manner that's "seamless and transparent to the user" is even a good thing. It sure doesn't help a user's situational awareness. Nevertheless, it's nice to have a visual diagram that compares and constrasts the different identity systems. And I sure do like doing the same thing with the protocols and languages operating behind the scenes. I’m not happy with the implication that CardSpace doesn’t do SSO. Under normal circumstances, all CadSpace requires of the user is one “click to approve” to sign on to a site. Granted, that’s not quite what a lot of folks think that SSO means, but I would rather interpret SSO as meaning Simple (enough) Sign On.

Furthermore, I’m not sure that signing on to a site in a manner that’s “seamless and transparent to the user” is even a good thing. It sure doesn’t help a user’s situational awareness.

Nevertheless, it’s nice to have a visual diagram that compares and constrasts the different identity systems. And I sure do like doing the same thing with the protocols and languages operating behind the scenes.

]]> By: links for 2007-03-29 « Object neo = neo Object http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-51518 links for 2007-03-29 « Object neo = neo Object Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:29:44 +0000 http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-51518 [...] Pushing String » The Venn of identity Sets grouping unique and common features of SAML, OpenID and CardSpaces. (tags: identity saml openid) This entry was written by chên and posted on March 29, 2007 at 9:29 pm and filed under delicious-daily. Bookmark the permalink. Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL. « links for 2007-03-27 [...] […] Pushing String » The Venn of identity Sets grouping unique and common features of SAML, OpenID and CardSpaces. (tags: identity saml openid) This entry was written by chên and posted on March 29, 2007 at 9:29 pm and filed under delicious-daily. Bookmark the permalink. Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL. « links for 2007-03-27 […]

]]> By: Eve http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-51440 Eve Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:26:58 +0000 http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-51440 Hi Carolina! I meant that SAML and Liberty have not standardized any particular UIs (though they each have standardized the protocol behavior of clients in some instances), while both OpenID and CardSpace prescribe user interaction to varying degrees, and explicitly act on a goal of ritualizing/making consistent how a user authenticates, controls attribute release, etc. Of course, similar rituals are possible that use SAML and Liberty protocols; Hubert's <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/hubertsblog/entry/a_much_nicer_experience" rel="nofollow">Liberty on the Desktop</a> example shows one way. Hi Carolina! I meant that SAML and Liberty have not standardized any particular UIs (though they each have standardized the protocol behavior of clients in some instances), while both OpenID and CardSpace prescribe user interaction to varying degrees, and explicitly act on a goal of ritualizing/making consistent how a user authenticates, controls attribute release, etc.

Of course, similar rituals are possible that use SAML and Liberty protocols; Hubert’s Liberty on the Desktop example shows one way.

]]> By: carolina http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-51288 carolina Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:41:45 +0000 http://www.xmlgrrl.com/blog/archives/2007/03/28/the-venn-of-identity/#comment-51288 Hi Eve, nice diagrams!. In the first one, what do you mean by "solutions for consistent user experience"? Thanks, carolina Hi Eve, nice diagrams!. In the first one, what do you mean by “solutions for consistent user experience”? Thanks, carolina

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